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This is THE podcast for you as a Customer Experience Leader. To learn where to spice up your CX leadership. Listen to CX colleague’s, thoughtleaders and of course your host Nienke Bloem. She has educated and spoken with CX Leaders all around the globe, is a Recognized Training provider with the CXPA and knows how to make CX work! Honest, fun and always with a practical twist to help you become an even better CX leader.
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Dec 29, 2025
Dec 29, 2025
39 min
How do you want to lead in 2026?
In this episode of CX Leadership Talks, Nienke Bloem helps CX leaders move from intention to direction. Not by creating a long to-do list, but by making conscious, strategic choices about where to focus.
With 2026 themed as Strategizing CX, this episode is an invitation to slow down, zoom out, and design your year with clarity. Nienke guides you through five must-win battles every CX leader should define for themselves: impact and results, strategy vision and purpose, engagement and cultural change, personal growth and development, and work-life balance and well-being.
This is not a quick listen. It’s a working session. You’ll be encouraged to grab a journal, think bigger than you normally do in CX, and translate ambition into concrete focus. Along the way, Nienke shares personal examples, lessons from CX leaders she mentors, and practical questions to help you decide what truly matters and what can wait.
The episode closes with a powerful exercise: writing a letter to yourself from the end of 2026, already successful.
If you want to lead CX more strategically, align your work with what really matters in your organization, and still protect your energy and joy, this episode is for you.
Press play, take your time, and start shaping your 2026 with intention.
Timestamped overview:
00:00 Strategic success in CX
05:51 Aligning goals and defining success
07:20 Prioritizing CX projects for impact
12:17 Building a strong CX strategy
13:33 Strategy to execution challenges
19:00 Strategizing CX engagement
20:31 Culture shift and behavioral change
25:21 Commit to growth opportunities
29:39 Prioritize strategic time planning
31:28 Habits for wellness and focus
35:23 Future success and CX impact
37:51 Strategizing CX and leadership
About Nienke:
Nienke Bloem is often called the Customer Experience speaker in the blue dress.
She's a global CX thought leader, educator and a global keynote speaker who inspires audiences with best practices and proven methodologies. She leads a speaking practice, a CX game company and a training business; she breathes Customer Experiences and is author of two CX books.
Her two-day Customer Experience Masterclass is known as the best program to prepare for your CCXP and she is the go-to person for CX leaders who want to advance their leadership and bring direct results from their Customer Experience transformation programs. Since 2020, she hosts a CX Leadership Masterminds program and helps leaders spice up their leadership and deliver an engaging CX Story including a solid CX Strategy. Besides, she is a modern-day pilgrim and found the parallel with leading customer centric transformations.
With her over 20 years of corporate experience, she speaks the business language. Her keynotes and education programs in Customer Experience are inspiring and hands-on. She is one of the few Recognized Training Partners of the CXPA and it is her mission to Make Customer Experience Work and help you deliver business results. Subscribe to her weekly CX Greetz to stay tuned.

Dec 15, 2025
Dec 15, 2025
52 min
Welcome to a brand new episode of the CX Leadership Talks podcast, hosted by Nienke Bloem! In this very special "Reflection edition for 2025”, Nienke Bloem invites you to slow down, look back, and take stock of your year as a CX leader. She guides you through a thoughtful self-audit, encouraging you to pause, journal, and dig deep into five essential areas: impact and results, strategy and vision, engagement and cultural change, personal growth, and work-life balance.
Drawing on her years of experience mentoring and educating hundreds of CX professionals, Nienke Bloem shares her own reflections and the successes (and lessons) of the leaders she’s worked with.
This episode is packed with practical questions, inspiring stories, and actionable insights that will help you understand where you’ve thrived, where you can improve, and how to set the stage for an even more impactful 2026.
So grab your headphones, settle into your favorite spot, and get ready for an honest, energizing reflection session designed to elevate your CX leadership journey!
Timestamped overview:
00:00 Self-audit for future growth
05:14 Defining success with metrics
08:19 Ranking results: direct vs. Indirect
11:11 Impact measurement and benefit tracking
15:58 Crafting an effective CX strategy
20:15 Strategic planning and reflection
21:42 Strategic success in CX leadership
25:09 Leadership and collaboration reflections
30:21 Success and personal growth
34:30 CX leadership and growth insights
38:05 Reflecting on stress and balance
41:19 Balancing work, life, and inspiration
45:32 Self-generated energy management
48:06 Finding my leadership sweet spot
50:03 Carrying forward purposeful habits
Extra information:
Download your free PDF with all 44 reflection questions here.
About Nienke:
Nienke Bloem is often called the Customer Experience speaker in the blue dress.
She's a global CX thought leader, educator and a global keynote speaker who inspires audiences with best practices and proven methodologies. She leads a speaking practice, a CX game company and a training business; she breathes Customer Experiences and is author of two CX books.
Her two-day Customer Experience Masterclass is known as the best program to prepare for your CCXP and she is the go-to person for CX leaders who want to advance their leadership and bring direct results from their Customer Experience transformation programs. Since 2020, she hosts a CX Leadership Masterminds program and helps leaders spice up their leadership and deliver an engaging CX Story including a solid CX Strategy. Besides, she is a modern-day pilgrim and found the parallel with leading customer centric transformations.
With her over 20 years of corporate experience, she speaks the business language. Her keynotes and education programs in Customer Experience are inspiring and hands-on. She is one of the few Recognized Training Partners of the CXPA and it is her mission to Make Customer Experience Work and help you deliver business results. Subscribe to her weekly CX Greetz to stay tuned.

Dec 1, 2025
Dec 1, 2025
48 min
Welcome to a new episode of CX Leadership Talks! The podcast for CX leaders who want to spice up their leadership.
In this episode, your host Nienke Bloem CCXP connects with Cairo Marsh, founder of Relativ, an experience agency based in Tokyo. Together, they explore why branding alone isn’t enough in today’s world and introduce the powerful concept of “brand being”: how a brand shows up in every experience, online and offline.
Cairo Marsh shares practical strategies for aligning different departments around shared customer goals, the importance of employee incentives and culture, and how CX leaders can leverage moments of belonging to drive loyalty and connection. You’ll also hear insights on balancing quantitative and qualitative research, the necessity of customer experience strategy, and lessons from global and Japanese brands.
Grab your favorite drink and get ready for inspiration and actionable tips to elevate your CX leadership!
Timestamped overview:
00:00 Brand being and belonging
05:33 Branding agencies and broken promises
06:57 Marketing for today and tomorrow
10:57 Thin slicing customer experience
13:47 Overcoming Fragmentation in Teams
18:37 Unified customer engagement platform design
21:58 Prioritizing customers to align goals
25:47 Balancing data and insight
30:00 Defining strategy to stand out
33:47 Authentic leadership and expectations
36:16 Japan's experience design challenge
39:08 Belonging over basic needs
40:50 Building belonging through connection
45:38 Unreasonable hospitality insights
Extra information:
Connect with Cairo on LinkedIn
You can find the information about relativ* here
You can find Cairo's book recommendation here
About Nienke:
Nienke Bloem is often called the Customer Experience speaker in the blue dress.
She's a global CX thought leader, educator and a global keynote speaker who inspires audiences with best practices and proven methodologies. She leads a speaking practice, a CX game company and a training business; she breathes Customer Experiences and is author of two CX books.
Her two-day Customer Experience Masterclass is known as the best program to prepare for your CCXP and she is the go-to person for CX leaders who want to advance their leadership and bring direct results from their Customer Experience transformation programs. Since 2020, she hosts a CX Leadership Masterminds program and helps leaders spice up their leadership and deliver an engaging CX Story including a solid CX Strategy. Besides, she is a modern-day pilgrim and found the parallel with leading customer centric transformations.
With her over 20 years of corporate experience, she speaks the business language. Her keynotes and education programs in Customer Experience are inspiring and hands-on. She is one of the few Recognized Training Partners of the CXPA and it is her mission to Make Customer Experience Work and help you deliver business results. Subscribe to her weekly CX Greetz to stay tuned.

Nov 17, 2025
Nov 17, 2025
25 min
Welcome to a new episode of CX Leadership Talks!
In this episode, Nienke Bloem CCXP takes you to the International CX Awards in London, where she hosted an evening with more than 450 CX professionals from over 50 countries. Across all those conversations, one theme stood out: the real challenge in CX is leadership engagement.
Not tools.
Not dashboards.
But leadership behavior.
Nienke shares why so many leaders believe they are customer centric while their behavior tells a different story, explains the confronting Bain 80–20 gap, and shows how the Aha moment becomes the starting point for real transformation.
She also shares a powerful example of a Dutch energy company where leaders personally solve customer complaints and what happens when leaders actually meet customers.
In this episode you’ll learn:
• Why leadership behavior is the true engine of customer centricity
• How the Dunning Kruger effect and the 80–20 gap show blind spots in leadership
• What happens when leaders step in, meet customers, and make customer centricity a habit
Nienke closes with insights from her new keynote We only win when everyone is in, where customer centric leadership becomes a real team sport.
Timestamped overview:
00:00 Leadership Drives Customer Experience Success
03:56 Customer Centricity: Challenging Perceptions
09:45 Customer-Centric Leadership Insights
12:19 Leaders Solving Complaints Personally
14:49 Leadership Growth Through Story Sharing
19:50 "True Customer-Centric Leadership"
24:07 "Leadership Behavior Shapes Impact"
25:26 "Greetings from CX Awards"
Explore working together:
If you want to find out whether Nienke’s new keynote We only win when everyone is in is the right fit for your leadership event or 2026 plans, send an email to nienke@nienkebloem.nl to plan an exploration call. Or look her up at nienkebloem.com
About Nienke:
Nienke Bloem CSP CCXP is known as the Customer Experience speaker in the blue dress. She is a global CX thought leader, keynote speaker and educator with over 20 years of corporate experience. She is author of two CX books, creator of the CX Game and a Recognized Training Partner of the CXPA. Nienke is on a mission to make Customer Experience work through strategy, behavior and leadership. And helping you spice up your CX 😊

Nov 3, 2025
Nov 3, 2025
27 min
Welcome to a brand new episode of CX Leadership Talks!
In this episode, Nienke Bloem CCXP shares a personal story from her time at KPN that completely changed how she looked at leadership. A Valentine’s Day blog, a bold email to the CEO, and one big aha moment led her to realise that real CX leadership starts when we stop judging and start joining.
Too often, CX leaders complain that management “doesn’t get it.” But our job isn’t to criticize leaders, it’s to help them lead. Nienke talks about how to bridge that leadership gap and become a trusted partner instead of a frustrated observer.
You’ll learn three practical ways to lead your leaders:
• Help them make decisions by bringing options, not just problems
• Help them connect with customers by organising and guiding their first experiences
• Help them as humans by showing care and curiosity
Timestamped overview:
00:00 Valentine's Day customer service story
04:13 Leaders ignoring customer stories
10:03 Mindset shift for better leadership
11:50 Elevating CX leadership mindset
14:56 Facilitating decisions through preparation
18:48 Practical planning for board visits
22:53 Connecting leaders with customers
25:19 CX Leadership masterminds 2026
Listen now and discover how to lead your leaders, build bridges instead of walls, and make Customer Experience work through true collaboration.
Don’t just manage CX. Lead it.
About Nienke:
If this episode hits home, there are two ways to go further.
Book Nienke’s new keynote We only win when everyone is in for your next leadership event.
Or, if you’re Dutch and ready to grow as a CX leader, join the CX Leadership Masterminds 2026, the eight-month journey to strengthen your CX strategy, story, and impact.
Nienke Bloem is often called the Customer Experience speaker in the blue dress.
She's a global CX thought leader, educator and a global keynote speaker who inspires audiences with best practices and proven methodologies. She leads a speaking practice, a CX game company and a training business; she breathes Customer Experiences and is author of two CX books.
With her over 20 years of corporate experience, she speaks the business language. Her keynotes and education programs in Customer Experience are inspiring and hands-on. She is one of the few Recognized Training Partners of the CXPA and it is her mission to Make Customer Experience Work and help you deliver business results. Subscribe to her weekly CX Greetz to stay tuned.

Oct 20, 2025
Oct 20, 2025
25 min
Welcome to a brand new episode of CX Leadership Talks!
What if CX leadership was more about heart than KPIs? In this fresh, feel-good episode, your host Nienke Bloem CCXP explores what happens when we swap frameworks and dashboards for belief, curiosity and connection, inspired by none other than Ted Lasso.
From her sunny spot in the south of France, Nienke shares how a cheerful TV coach can teach us five timeless lessons about leadership, culture and courage. Because let’s be honest, too many CX leaders focus on metrics when what really moves people is meaning.
In this episode of CX Leadership Talks, Nienke breaks down five Ted Lasso leadership lessons that every CX leader can use to bring more heart into their work:
- Be a goldfish, let go faster and lead lighter.
- Believe in your team, courage grows from trust.
- Be curious, not judgmental, curiosity opens doors.
- Find your biscuits, build connection through consistency and care.
- Laugh at yourself, authenticity beats perfection every time.
This episode is about leading with heart, humour and humanity. Nienke invites you to bring a little more Lasso energy into your CX leadership, to believe before you measure, to connect before you control, and to make customer experience work with joy.
🎧 Listen now and discover which of the five Ted Lasso lessons will spice up your leadership next.
Timestamped overview:
00:00 Ted Lasso leadership insights
05:42 Customer Experience lessons from Ted
08:13 Be a goldfish
11:34 Believe in your team
14:30 Be curious, not judgmental
18:05 Building loyalty through gestures
20:54 Learn from mistakes
23:39 Building Customer-Centric leadership
About Nienke:
Nienke Bloem is often called the Customer Experience speaker in the blue dress.
She's a global CX thought leader, educator and a global keynote speaker who inspires audiences with best practices and proven methodologies. She leads a speaking practice, a CX game company and a training business; she breathes Customer Experiences and is author of two CX books.
Her two-day Customer Experience Masterclass is known as the best program to prepare for your CCXP and she is the go-to person for CX leaders who want to advance their leadership and bring direct results from their Customer Experience transformation programs. Since 2020, she hosts a CX Leadership Masterminds program and helps leaders spice up their leadership and deliver an engaging CX Story including a solid CX Strategy. Besides, she is a modern-day pilgrim and found the parallel with leading customer centric transformations.
With her over 20 years of corporate experience, she speaks the business language. Her keynotes and education programs in Customer Experience are inspiring and hands-on. She is one of the few Recognized Training Partners of the CXPA and it is her mission to Make Customer Experience Work and help you deliver business results. Subscribe to her weekly CX Greetz to stay tuned.

Oct 6, 2025
Oct 6, 2025
22 min
Welcome to a brand new episode of CX Leadership Talks!
Too many CX leaders are hired to create change… yet end up playing it safe. Organizations reward dashboards, quick wins, and staying in the background. But as your host: Nienke Bloem reminds her listeners, CX is not about management, it is about leadership.
In this episode of CX Leadership Talks, Nienke shares the five areas where CX leaders play it too safe, and the bold leadership shifts they need to make instead. She explains how leaders can move from being reporters to becoming strategic business partners, from project explainers to storytellers with one strong CX narrative, from short-term fixers to transformational leaders, from the soft zone to technology-driven impact, and from being invisible to becoming visible strategic connectors.
This episode is about stepping out of the slippers of the expert or manager and into the shoes of a true CX leader. Nienke invites her audience to spice up their leadership, follow their joy, and ride the wave of awesomeness.
In this episode you will learn:
- Why playing it safe is the biggest trap for CX leaders
- The 5 safe zones that keep leaders small
- What it looks like to shift from management to true leadership
- Why joy, courage and visibility matter more than ever
Nienke makes it clear: CX is too important to play it safe. It is time to stop limiting yourself, step into your leadership shoes, and lead like you mean it.
🎧 Listen now and discover which of the five areas resonates most with you.
Timestamped overview:
00:00 CX Leadership podcast challenges
05:06 Step out of safe leadership
08:40 From reporter to strategic partner
12:41 From projects to transformation
14:05 Tech-driven impact with AI & data
18:02 Becoming a strategic connector
21:18 Join secret email list
About Nienke:
Nienke Bloem is often called the Customer Experience speaker in the blue dress.
She's a global CX thought leader, educator and a global keynote speaker who inspires audiences with best practices and proven methodologies. She leads a speaking practice, a CX game company and a training business; she breathes Customer Experiences and is author of two CX books.
Her two-day Customer Experience Masterclass is known as the best program to prepare for your CCXP and she is the go-to person for CX leaders who want to advance their leadership and bring direct results from their Customer Experience transformation programs. Since 2020, she hosts a CX Leadership Masterminds program and helps leaders spice up their leadership and deliver an engaging CX Story including a solid CX Strategy. Besides, she is a modern-day pilgrim and found the parallel with leading customer centric transformations.
With her over 20 years of corporate experience, she speaks the business language. Her keynotes and education programs in Customer Experience are inspiring and hands-on. She is one of the few Recognized Training Partners of the CXPA and it is her mission to Make Customer Experience Work and help you deliver business results. Subscribe to her weekly CX Greetz to stay tuned.

Sep 22, 2025
Sep 22, 2025
32 min
In this episode of CX Leadership Talks, Nienke Bloem CCXP MBA explores the fascinating concept of thin slicing, the psychological phenomenon that shows how just a few seconds of behavior can reveal the bigger truth.
From leaders canceling contact center visits to technicians arriving late, from the reviews customers leave online to the culture that lives inside organizations, thin slices are everywhere. And they matter.
Drawing on research by Nalini Ambady, Malcolm Gladwell’s Blink, and her own stories from corporate life, Nienke shows how thin slicing can be used in two powerful ways:
- Driving culture change and leadership interventions, making behavior visible and discussable.
- Understanding customer feedback and VOC data, treating reviews and complaints as slices of the bigger customer experience.
You’ll learn:
- Why behavior is the real evidence of your strategy.
- How small slices of action build or break trust.
- Practical tips for using thin slicing as a CX leader.
Because in the end, behavior is the evidence. Every thin slice reveals what’s really important, far louder than any strategy document or polished story.
🎧 Tune in for stories, science, and practical actions you can take to grow your CX leadership.
Timestamped overview:
00:00 Thin slicing and tech issues
05:51 Accuracy of thin-slice judgments
09:25 Unseen importance: Plankton effect
11:38 Thin slicing: Judging whole from parts
13:50 Customers are evaluating companies
18:24 Aligning internal culture with CX
21:02 Leadership by example in CX
25:13 Cultural reflection in Customer feedback
27:06 Distrust and control realization
31:03 Strategy webinar dates correction
Free learning opportunity:
Join one of Nienke’s upcoming Strategy on a Page webinars:
- English: Friday, October 3 at 10:00 AM (Amsterdam time)
- Dutch: Monday, October 6 at 12:00 noon (Amsterdam time)
Both sessions will be recorded, but attending live gives you the chance to ask your own questions and interact. Plus, if you attend live, you’ll get a practical AI prompt so you can start building your SOAP right away.
About Nienke:
Nienke Bloem is often called the Customer Experience speaker in the blue dress.
She's a global CX thought leader, educator and a global keynote speaker who inspires audiences with best practices and proven methodologies. She leads a speaking practice, a CX game company and a training business; she breathes Customer Experiences and is author of two CX books.
Her two-day Customer Experience Masterclass is known as the best program to prepare for your CCXP and she is the go-to person for CX leaders who want to advance their leadership and bring direct results from their Customer Experience transformation programs. Since 2020, she hosts a CX Leadership Masterminds program and helps leaders spice up their leadership and deliver an engaging CX Story including a solid CX Strategy. Besides, she is a modern-day pilgrim and found the parallel with leading customer centric transformations.
With her over 20 years of corporate experience, she speaks the business language. Her keynotes and education programs in Customer Experience are inspiring and hands-on. She is one of the few Recognized Training Partners of the CXPA and it is her mission to Make Customer Experience Work and help you deliver business results. Subscribe to her weekly CX Greetz to stay tuned.
